tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-119099391190506620.post303458125800870785..comments2023-11-05T01:26:47.730-07:00Comments on small scale grain and pulse production: Thoughts on Finding and Evaluating Seeds for Grain ProductionSlow Hand Farmhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04986457748377914397noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-119099391190506620.post-13960918254971413142010-07-06T20:30:00.841-07:002010-07-06T20:30:00.841-07:00To take that a little farther, the first year you ...To take that a little farther, the first year you start with an ounce of seed and grow it all out and it yields maybe a pound. The next year you grow that out and it yields maybe 16 pounds.<a href="http://www.604cleaner.com" rel="nofollow">Carpet Cleaning Vancouver</a> The following year you plant 16 pounds and get 256 pounds. So you're three years out and now you're at a quantity that might be in the very small commercial range.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09806850379982383919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-119099391190506620.post-13439462677241861532010-03-21T21:25:55.219-07:002010-03-21T21:25:55.219-07:00Years ago I got a small quantity of "upland r...Years ago I got a small quantity of "upland rice" seed from Bountiful Gardens in Willits, CA. They don't appear to have it anymore but you might have more luck if you search for upland rice which I think is the more common term.Slow Hand Farmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04986457748377914397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-119099391190506620.post-14918411070598359262010-03-21T12:25:09.185-07:002010-03-21T12:25:09.185-07:00Sorry for the second post, but do you know anyone ...Sorry for the second post, but do you know anyone that sells dryland varieties of rice?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-119099391190506620.post-36692910746823075522010-03-21T12:10:17.049-07:002010-03-21T12:10:17.049-07:00I just came across your blog and I'm so very g...I just came across your blog and I'm so very glad you have this as a resource! I'm investigating growing wheat on my 1/4 acre plot just to see if it's possible. <br /><br />My problem is that there is so little information on when to plant and when to harvest! <br /><br />Native Seeds Search http://nativeseeds.org/catalog/index.php?cPath=1 <br /><br />Has Arizona varieties of wheat, beans, corn, sorghum, and more available. They will do well in any area with high heat and low humidity, and probably tolerate drought better than other varieties.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-119099391190506620.post-75829962908569573792009-12-23T13:57:32.605-08:002009-12-23T13:57:32.605-08:00This is just a quick response for the above mentio...This is just a quick response for the above mention of Johnny's seed. It has made the rounds before and was addressed at this link; http://www.johnnyseeds.com/t-ownership.aspxUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08356729361292296574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-119099391190506620.post-14884682623200594252009-12-23T07:07:16.114-08:002009-12-23T07:07:16.114-08:00I believe that my wife told me that Johnny's S...I believe that my wife told me that Johnny's Seeds is a Monsanto Company for those of us who choose not to support that company.goldforestfarms.blogspot.cahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03000577922412768699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-119099391190506620.post-71963093911152007722009-11-11T13:20:18.060-08:002009-11-11T13:20:18.060-08:00Hi Folks,
The Heritage Wheat Conservancy, growsee...Hi Folks, <br />The Heritage Wheat Conservancy, growseed.org, is conducting wheats trials on our farm in Colrain, MA and at the University of Mass, Amherst. In our winter wheat trials last year we found 18 landrace wheats that yielded higher than the best yielding modern wheat (AC Maxine) in New England. The source of my seeds are mostly traditional farmers in the Mideast and Europe. Not only are most of the heritage wheats higher yielding, but have richer flavor and taller for good weed competition. Am conducting nutritional analysis this season.<br />Eli Rogosa<br />growseed@yahoo.comEli Rogosahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01275330690942310438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-119099391190506620.post-3456235531600612442009-09-14T20:05:02.728-07:002009-09-14T20:05:02.728-07:00C., Thanks for the info, very helpful to hear your...C., Thanks for the info, very helpful to hear your experiences. I've also had much better luck with winter sowings than spring. I've often used red clover with annual rye grass as a cover crop. Somehow that hasn't yet translated into using it with wheat but that's a great reminder and I think I'll do that with this fall's seeding.Slow Hand Farmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04986457748377914397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-119099391190506620.post-17421378303881434772009-09-09T07:24:32.461-07:002009-09-09T07:24:32.461-07:00Thanks for the correction to the grain seed link.
...Thanks for the correction to the grain seed link.<br /><br />No, I have not seeded heavier than 90# in drills.<br /><br />I have had good luck at 90 because I spin red clover onto it at grain sowing. I think that the clover might be suppressed at a higher wheat seeding rate. The wheat-clover is important in my rotation so I will give up a little grain yield to keep the clover.<br /><br />I inexcusably ran short on clover seed this year and so was unable to oversow all the wheat. It was definitely more weedy where the field lacked clover. A higher wheat seeding rate would have been appropriate there. i think i would shoot for 30-35 plants per square foot.<br /><br />There seems to be a trend of planting spring wheat more heavily and in narrower drills. A proponent of this told me he gets better weed control and more uniformity of heads ripening since there is less tillering. Worth a thought...<br /><br />I planted a small field of naked oats as a trial at 130#/ac. and my sense is that was too high a seeding rate. I will experiment with this in the future. I was surprised how slowly they grew in the early season compared to feed oats. I planted them very early, I believe end of April, in fall plowed mud. They came up slow. I was concerned that they might be overtaken by weeds but it was not so since they took off once the soil warmed. Variety was not stated, but presumably they were either Paul or Buff oats. Nice straw.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01496880004490916746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-119099391190506620.post-86101122196288384112009-09-08T08:24:03.711-07:002009-09-08T08:24:03.711-07:00Thanks for the info C., definitely good info. The...Thanks for the info C., definitely good info. The website for Alberta Lea seed has no final s - it's alseed.com. I'm curious if you've tried heavier seeding rates or cross drilling for weed suppression?Slow Hand Farmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04986457748377914397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-119099391190506620.post-25881236230875928242009-09-04T12:23:56.138-07:002009-09-04T12:23:56.138-07:00a good source of Glenn hard red spring wheat seed ...a good source of Glenn hard red spring wheat seed is Albert Lea seeds -- www.alseeds.com -- considerably cheaper than Johnny's for the same variey.<br /><br /> I grew Glenn HRSW in northern ny this year and was pleased with both yield and disease resistance.<br /><br />Interestingly, Glenn suppressed summer annual weeds noticeably better than Red Fife. Both grown side-by-side in the same field. Both planted at 90#/acre in 8" drills.<br /><br />I appreciate that not everyone wants a modern wheat, but I'm passing the info along for those requiring more disease resistance than available in many heirloom wheats.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01496880004490916746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-119099391190506620.post-17603085031518831742009-08-19T15:25:03.658-07:002009-08-19T15:25:03.658-07:00thanks for the link, Eva. Steve, if you find any ...thanks for the link, Eva. Steve, if you find any good equipment I'd love to know about it and be able to pass on the information through the blog.Slow Hand Farmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04986457748377914397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-119099391190506620.post-58201989816090266472009-08-18T21:56:07.542-07:002009-08-18T21:56:07.542-07:00Wheat gets worse as CO2 rises
http://www.newscie...Wheat gets worse as CO2 rises <br /><br />http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17617-wheat-gets-worse-as-co2-rises.htmlUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12806833328716826285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-119099391190506620.post-58274961075302348642009-05-26T18:09:09.587-07:002009-05-26T18:09:09.587-07:00Just starting to research small grain production. ...Just starting to research small grain production. I've found sources for small mills, but am interested in working with barley. Are there any sources for small scale hulling and or pearling equipment? I've read here that many use naked barley, but what do you do with small volumes of regular barley?Steve Carrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11706114439618856525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-119099391190506620.post-57224868577137457922009-02-24T18:27:00.000-08:002009-02-24T18:27:00.000-08:00Howdy,I was further educating myself on grains whe...Howdy,<BR/>I was further educating myself on grains when I found this great blog. I own a new seed company. I won't go into the details you can go to the site, but we are trying to offer a large selection of grains. This turning out to be much more challenging than I thought. It is impossible to find a ample supply of most grains. If anyone here has experience in growing grains and would be interested in growing for us or can help us with information. Please let me know. I really want to offer more grains for the homesteader such as myself, but it is going to take time to grow things out in enough quantity to sell at the seed company. Thank you for any help.Farmer Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09297497173541133469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-119099391190506620.post-8625453650073823752009-02-19T15:05:00.000-08:002009-02-19T15:05:00.000-08:00Hello All, Just wanted to thank Anthony and every...Hello All, <BR/><BR/>Just wanted to thank Anthony and everyone for starting & maintaining this site and the great information that has been provided. I am a beginning farmer that is hoping to grow some grains and pulses for family use and poultry feed. This year (2009) will be the first year of having a go at it. We are planning on some corn, beans, sunflower, and then wheat in the fall. If anyone has any favorite varieties I would love to hear about them. <BR/>One thing I am struggling with is what scale of cutter, thresher, and cleaner to look for or start with? I am only going to grow about five acres of grain & pulses at the most and probably only about .5 acres this year. I would like tools\machines that are versatile enough to accommodate all the crops planned if possible without being huge monsters. What would be great is to hear or actually see more about what other people are using and how much of which crops they are processing. Hopefully things will get worked out by the end of this season and I would be more than happy to relay my choices and experiences for other people in the same place or scale. <BR/><BR/>Thanks again,Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08356729361292296574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-119099391190506620.post-87442047086995601232009-01-16T08:16:00.000-08:002009-01-16T08:16:00.000-08:00Thanks for the edit, the link should be fixed. To...Thanks for the edit, the link should be fixed. <BR/><BR/>To clarify, I believe Anthony is talking about the number of years it takes to increase a small quantity of seeds to something on a useable small commercial scale. <BR/><BR/>To take that a little farther, the first year you start with an ounce of seed and grow it all out and it yields maybe a pound. The next year you grow that out and it yields maybe 16 pounds. The following year you plant 16 pounds and get 256 pounds. So you're three years out and now you're at a quantity that might be in the very small commercial range. <BR/><BR/>If you're like me you're a little more conservative, especially as you get farther from that small quantity of seed, and you never plant much more than half your seed, just in case there's a crop failure that year.Slow Hand Farmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04986457748377914397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-119099391190506620.post-90782113775253845022009-01-16T07:25:00.000-08:002009-01-16T07:25:00.000-08:00Looks like the URL for Kusa is mistyped in the ent...Looks like the URL for Kusa is mistyped in the entry, and needs an extra "a". ;^)<BR/><BR/>http://www.ancientcerealgrains.org/<BR/><BR/>I'd grabbed a few packets of wheat from Bountiful Gardens to play with this winter.<BR/><BR/>Sorry for naivety; what's the "grow-out" period and/or why is it several years for barley?ruffinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02272945932184892035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-119099391190506620.post-60106035393172787522009-01-15T21:58:00.000-08:002009-01-15T21:58:00.000-08:00I've also recently come across the Ancient Wheat C...I've also recently come across the Ancient Wheat Conservancy's web site. I don't have any direct experience with these people but they offer ounce quantities of various wheat strains along with descriptions. growseed.org is the site.Slow Hand Farmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04986457748377914397noreply@blogger.com